Base stats are pretty much the same concept as in Pokémon: They determine how strong a Denjuu will be. Each Denjuu has a base stat in HP, Speed, Power, Defense, Electric Power, and Electric Defense (in that order). According to this page here:
http://racieb.ggmedia.us/telefang/eindex.html
...it says that "bolt" in the bootleg is Electric Defense and "teleg" in the bootleg is Electric Power. This has them mixed up.
Anyway, a base stat determines how strong a Denjuu is. A low base stat is weaker than a high base stat. This is what makes certain Denjuu stronger in certain areas than others.
Also, this page here:
http://racieb.ggmedia.us/telefang/dex.html
...lists the first 90 Denjuu with its base stats. I looked at the ROM, double-checked this page, and verified that all of these are correct. Plus, since I know where Denjuu's base stats are located in the ROM, I can find out base stats of all the other 84 Denjuu.
So, should there be a template for base stats on a Denjuu's page? Bulbapedia has information on base stats for every Pokémon, so this should too. It gives an idea on how strong a Denjuu is. What do you think? I think I'll add the base stats in the wiki, and someone else can organize it to make it look better.
EDIT: Found out that Elec. Power comes BEFORE Elec. Def. and that RacieB's site has "bolt" and "teleg" mixed up.
EDIT 2: Found out that "Attack" should be "Power". Here I go thinking in Pokémon terms again...
Should there be a template for Base Stats?
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Blaziken257
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Kimbles(imported)
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
Well, In japanese it looks like it's
Speed | Electric Attack
Attack | Electric Defense
Defense |
...On the stat pages, so make of that what you will. XD I think it's a good idea to include them.
I've been meaning to mention the electric attack stuff, actually... According to the manual, the big DP-charging attacks are called "Denma" attacks, which basically translates to electric magic attacks, and the bar it charges is for "Denmaryoku" points, or electric magic power. It's not really accurate just to call them electric attacks or electric power, since it leaves out information and makes it sound like the attacks themselves use electricity, plus it will probably get confused with the electric move type in T2... ):
So, since electric magic is still pretty awkward to say, I propose that we stick with the japanese and call them Denma attacks, like we've done with Denjuu. Partly because the battle screens already say "DP" in english, and partly because it just sounds better than the alternative. D: So you'll have Denma attacks that charge Denma power on the DP guage and use the Denma attack and Denma defense stats (shortened, probably). I still don't know how the term is used in T2, though, so what do you guys think? XD
Speed | Electric Attack
Attack | Electric Defense
Defense |
...On the stat pages, so make of that what you will. XD I think it's a good idea to include them.
I've been meaning to mention the electric attack stuff, actually... According to the manual, the big DP-charging attacks are called "Denma" attacks, which basically translates to electric magic attacks, and the bar it charges is for "Denmaryoku" points, or electric magic power. It's not really accurate just to call them electric attacks or electric power, since it leaves out information and makes it sound like the attacks themselves use electricity, plus it will probably get confused with the electric move type in T2... ):
So, since electric magic is still pretty awkward to say, I propose that we stick with the japanese and call them Denma attacks, like we've done with Denjuu. Partly because the battle screens already say "DP" in english, and partly because it just sounds better than the alternative. D: So you'll have Denma attacks that charge Denma power on the DP guage and use the Denma attack and Denma defense stats (shortened, probably). I still don't know how the term is used in T2, though, so what do you guys think? XD
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Blaziken257
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
I added base stats on Krypto, Kryptoride, Kryptoarm, Kryptoburn, Kryptosnipe, Kryptoknight, Fungus, Funblade (an entry I added today), and Doomsday. How did I do? Did I get the names of the stats correct?
Now there should be a template... but I'm not good with templates...
EDIT: I went ahead and ripped the base stats of all the Denjuu:
Now there should be a template... but I'm not good with templates...
EDIT: I went ahead and ripped the base stats of all the Denjuu:
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HP Speed Attack Defense D. Atk. D. Def.
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001 Tsunonasu 30 08 08 12 05 05
002 Kochia 30 16 10 05 06 05
003 Oshe 32 08 08 11 04 04
004 Keshi 30 14 08 08 06 05
005 Krypto 38 10 16 10 06 06
006 Monstera 36 12 10 07 03 04
007 Fungus 37 14 12 08 04 05
008 Hiougi 38 08 12 08 03 04
009 Punica 33 16 08 05 07 05
010 Gumi 33 12 10 06 06 05
011 Suguri 32 17 14 06 06 06
012 Ganraikou 33 18 12 07 05 05
013 Byakubu 35 14 10 08 03 04
014 Telopea 40 08 08 07 05 06
015 Mantea 38 10 10 06 05 06
016 Ixora 33 10 12 05 06 06
017 Myrtus 32 16 12 05 03 03
018 Lychnis 35 12 10 12 03 03
019 Lapeirousia 34 08 12 11 03 04
020 Bubaria 35 08 14 11 03 04
021 Angios 38 18 15 08 06 06
022 Gymnos 39 10 17 08 04 05
023 Liriope 30 17 08 07 06 05
024 Waratah 30 16 08 06 07 07
025 Sorghum 33 12 16 06 06 05
026 Eryngo 35 12 12 05 04 04
027 Noriutsugi 33 15 12 05 05 05
028 Pampas 30 16 06 04 06 05
029 Rhodanthe 30 16 15 05 04 05
030 Licorice 34 12 10 05 03 04
031 Viburnum 30 12 10 04 03 04
032 Funnel 34 12 18 07 03 03
033 Vanda 38 06 16 08 03 03
034 Uikyou 30 14 12 06 03 04
035 Obana 38 10 16 07 05 05
036 35 18 15 10 10 05
037 32 17 13 08 10 07
038 32 10 13 12 10 09
039 Chamelan 32 14 10 10 09 09
040 Kryptoarm 40 14 16 12 12 08
041 36 13 12 10 07 08
042 Fungeist 38 16 16 13 09 10
043 38 09 13 10 08 08
044 33 17 10 10 12 10
045 35 12 11 09 12 10
046 Berzelia 38 16 14 12 12 13
047 Nigella 40 12 13 12 11 15
048 Musa 42 11 18 10 20 18
049 Netaro 45 12 10 09 10 10
050 Nejiro 33 18 14 10 08 05
051 Godetia 36 13 13 12 11 10
052 Curcuma 40 10 15 10 18 18
053 Tessen 34 17 13 12 12 10
054 Heliopsis 38 10 15 14 10 11
055 Hagumanoki 35 10 20 15 10 13
056 32 10 12 13 07 09
057 30 18 12 08 08 08
058 32 12 12 11 07 09
059 Chameraid 32 15 10 10 08 07
060 Kryptoride 40 15 16 11 08 08
061 36 14 10 08 08 09
062 Funblade 38 16 15 10 08 10
063 38 10 13 10 06 08
064 Puneedle 33 18 10 08 10 09
065 35 13 10 08 10 07
066 32 17 15 08 08 09
067 33 19 12 08 08 07
068 35 14 14 09 05 05
069 40 08 10 08 08 07
070 Octor 38 11 10 08 08 07
071 33 12 13 09 08 08
072 Ghosboar 32 16 14 08 06 06
073 Rasenmai 35 13 10 12 08 08
074 34 09 13 11 06 08
075 Armcrab 35 08 15 12 06 08
076 38 18 16 10 08 08
077 39 12 17 10 08 09
078 Lirionpu 32 18 10 10 08 12
079 30 17 10 08 08 07
080 33 14 17 10 10 08
081 35 14 13 10 08 08
082 33 16 12 08 08 09
083 30 17 10 08 10 08
084 Gust 32 17 15 08 10 08
085 34 14 12 08 06 08
086 32 14 13 08 06 08
087 34 12 18 09 06 06
088 38 08 16 09 06 07
089 32 15 14 08 06 08
090 38 12 16 09 09 08
091 31 13 12 08 08 09
092 39 10 17 10 09 10
093 32 17 10 12 13 12
094 30 16 10 10 12 09
095 33 13 18 10 12 08
096 35 13 14 10 12 08
097 34 15 13 09 13 08
098 30 16 12 10 14 08
099 Tempest 30 16 15 09 13 09
100 35 13 14 12 10 08
101 Hiyu 42 10 16 14 15 15
102 38 16 17 13 12 10
103 Papaver 45 10 18 15 12 11
104 37 10 19 18 14 12
105 36 11 15 12 15 14
106 Gaultheria 39 10 12 15 08 08
107 Dipsacus 41 19 16 16 15 15
108 Kaya 33 18 15 14 13 12
109 Denfare 42 12 12 18 15 15
110 38 17 17 14 13 10
111 38 16 16 14 13 10
112 35 14 15 13 13 12
113 Kryptosnipe 40 17 18 14 12 12
114 Funboost 38 16 16 13 12 10
115 37 17 14 12 14 10
116 38 18 16 13 15 10
117 39 15 15 12 12 10
118 Octorifle 40 15 13 13 11 12
119 35 17 14 12 12 10
120 Spearneedle 36 17 16 14 11 12
121 35 14 15 14 10 12
122 34 16 15 13 10 10
123 Kryptoburn 40 16 18 14 10 10
124 Funmachine 38 17 16 13 08 10
125 34 18 12 12 13 12
126 34 19 16 13 14 10
127 36 17 15 12 10 10
128 Octagun 40 16 13 12 10 12
129 Mummyboar 35 18 14 12 10 10
130 Kingpin 35 13 15 14 10 12
131 Beebalm 36 17 15 14 12 08
132 Salal 32 16 13 12 10 12
133 Enishida 35 10 20 12 08 08
134 Tulbaghia 35 17 13 13 14 16
135 Kiringiku 41 18 12 10 15 16
136 38 18 17 14 12 10
137 39 15 17 10 08 10
138 38 19 12 12 10 12
139 34 18 13 12 10 13
140 39 17 18 13 11 11
141 38 17 15 12 10 12
142 36 18 14 12 10 11
143 35 17 12 12 12 13
144 Storm 39 18 17 13 11 11
145 36 16 15 13 12 11
146 38 10 17 14 13 13
147 Ruscus 40 12 20 18 16 16
148 Maoran 41 10 18 17 15 15
149 Zea 32 19 16 14 18 15
150 42 14 13 12 15 15
151 38 17 19 15 14 13
152 39 13 17 15 13 12
153 36 18 12 12 15 13
154 Calm 36 17 15 13 14 14
155 Ryuuguu 40 10 20 18 18 16
156 38 16 18 15 14 16
157 37 18 18 14 13 14
158 Kryptoknight 40 18 19 15 16 14
159 Fungwar 40 19 17 14 16 14
160 Bashou 42 10 18 15 16 15
161 40 18 19 15 13 13
162 39 17 17 14 13 10
163 Lilimonarch 38 19 14 14 13 17
164 37 16 16 14 14 13
165 38 15 17 15 13 13
166 Kanzou 38 10 22 18 15 14
167 Ornithogalum 42 10 20 18 18 17
168 Gentiana 39 18 17 15 14 13
169 Yarrow 40 10 20 16 14 15
170 42 18 19 15 16 14
171 43 17 18 14 15 14
172 Doomsday 45 16 20 16 18 18
173 Dendel 45 12 18 20 22 20
174 Teletel 46 20 18 20 12 20
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Milnivri(imported)
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
Cool I didn't know there was such a page (the dex page). xD
It has like tons of useful information! Omg! Yay!
I was also thinking of base stats, but had no idea how to do it lol. As well as the amount of damage an attack does.
And there are more walking icons there! Yay!
How'd you find that page?
Oh, and I'm going to make the template now.
It has like tons of useful information! Omg! Yay!
I was also thinking of base stats, but had no idea how to do it lol. As well as the amount of damage an attack does.
And there are more walking icons there! Yay!
How'd you find that page?
Oh, and I'm going to make the template now.
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Blaziken257
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
As for how I found it, RacieB once posted a link to it... in this topic. I don't know why she doesn't link to it anywhere on her page...
By the way, base stats aren't the same as the stats themselves when you view them on the screen. Base stats are just one variable, which is what makes Denjuu strong in some areas and weak in others. There are other variables too, like level -- the higher the level, the higher a Denjuu's stats will be, obviously. Same thing is true with Pokémon: Base stats are one variable that calculates a Pokémon's stats, along with its level, "DVs" (random variables from 0-31 or 0-15 depending on the game that make each Pokémon vary slightly in stats), "EVs" (variables that increase stats from using it in battles, which is why it's better to use vitamins and engage your Pokémon in battles rather than use Rare Candies), and natures (the multiply a non-HP stat by either .9, 1, or 1.1).
Now, in this game, there seem to be some other factors that I can't seem to figure out that also influences Denjuu's stats. For example, as a test, I hacked all of Krypto's base stats so that they're all 10 (by changing all bytes in range $1D4B88-$1D4B8D to 0A). I started a new game and checked Krypto's stats right when I got him (I didn't get into any battles). His stats (not base stats!) were:
HP: 14
Speed: 12
Attack: 16
Defense: 14
Denma Attack: 12
Denma Defense: 12
Now, why is it that even though all the base stats were the same, its stats aren't? There has to be some other variable that I don't know about. I tried hacking the other bytes that are tied to Krypto (from $1D4B88-$1D4B97), but this doesn't seem to have any effect on this oddity. This mystery variable must be stored somewhere else in the ROM.
Also, back to why I made the original topic in the first place: There should be a template for base stats. Bulbapedia has one:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:BaseStats
And here's one of MANY examples of how the template is laid out:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cha...mon)#Base_stats
By the way, base stats aren't the same as the stats themselves when you view them on the screen. Base stats are just one variable, which is what makes Denjuu strong in some areas and weak in others. There are other variables too, like level -- the higher the level, the higher a Denjuu's stats will be, obviously. Same thing is true with Pokémon: Base stats are one variable that calculates a Pokémon's stats, along with its level, "DVs" (random variables from 0-31 or 0-15 depending on the game that make each Pokémon vary slightly in stats), "EVs" (variables that increase stats from using it in battles, which is why it's better to use vitamins and engage your Pokémon in battles rather than use Rare Candies), and natures (the multiply a non-HP stat by either .9, 1, or 1.1).
Now, in this game, there seem to be some other factors that I can't seem to figure out that also influences Denjuu's stats. For example, as a test, I hacked all of Krypto's base stats so that they're all 10 (by changing all bytes in range $1D4B88-$1D4B8D to 0A). I started a new game and checked Krypto's stats right when I got him (I didn't get into any battles). His stats (not base stats!) were:
HP: 14
Speed: 12
Attack: 16
Defense: 14
Denma Attack: 12
Denma Defense: 12
Now, why is it that even though all the base stats were the same, its stats aren't? There has to be some other variable that I don't know about. I tried hacking the other bytes that are tied to Krypto (from $1D4B88-$1D4B97), but this doesn't seem to have any effect on this oddity. This mystery variable must be stored somewhere else in the ROM.
Also, back to why I made the original topic in the first place: There should be a template for base stats. Bulbapedia has one:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Template:BaseStats
And here's one of MANY examples of how the template is laid out:
http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Cha...mon)#Base_stats
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Milnivri(imported)
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
Uh yes I know there should be a template. You've kinda repeated yourself... xD
Anyway I was kept busy with a major project + a competition, sorry. Will go do now xDD
About the stats oddity, I tried it myself. Yea it turned out the same. Which means there aren't any IVs involved I think (where its a random one every time)
Anyway I was kept busy with a major project + a competition, sorry. Will go do now xDD
About the stats oddity, I tried it myself. Yea it turned out the same. Which means there aren't any IVs involved I think (where its a random one every time)
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Kimbles(imported)
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Re: Should there be a template for Base Stats?
Could the stats be affected by personality? :/ I'm pretty sure that Denjuu you get from the story (their phone numbers all start with 05) always have the same personality? D: Either way, you should test it out on a non-story Denjuu just to make sure...