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Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 8:42 pm
by fusianasan(imported)
I began experimenting with some of the editing tools in this section, and I was wondering; will savegames continue to work with an edited ROM?

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 9:50 pm
by swampert22(imported)
Yep, your save game will work perfectly fine! As the data edited is in the ROM not the RAM, the game just carries on as normal with the changes you apply. :D

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Tue Feb 24, 2009 10:12 pm
by fusianasan(imported)
swampert22 wrote: Yep, your save game will work perfectly fine! As the data edited is in the ROM not the RAM, the game just carries on as normal with the changes you apply. :D
Ah, alright. Thank you.

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:09 am
by Blaziken257
Just as long as you don't hack something that crashes the game, it will be fine. (And even then, that doesn't always happen... a few times when I played with Corrupt, I lost save files... but thankfully I backed them up with savestates anyway so it didn't affect me at all!)

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 12:12 am
by fusianasan(imported)
Blaziken257 wrote: Just as long as you don't hack something that crashes the game, it will be fine. (And even then, that doesn't always happen... a few times when I played with Corrupt, I lost save files... but thankfully I backed them up with savestates anyway so it didn't affect me at all!)
Are there any examples of things that crash the game? I usually just stick to editing Denjuu.

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Wed Feb 25, 2009 8:56 pm
by swampert22(imported)
If you're just editing Denjuu, you are very unlikely to encounter any problems. If you delve into editing warps and such, you may find yourself somewhere you cannot get out of!

Just remember to back up your saves like Blaziken257 said and you'll be fine!

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:42 pm
by zzc
How to hack a saved game, I wanna change the personality of some of the denjuu.

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 4:56 pm
by swampert22(imported)
There has been much talk of this recently, but it seems everytime something in the save is changed, the entire save gets corrupted. Until we know how to get round this problem, editing saves is impossible :(

Re: Denjuu Editors and Savegames

Posted: Thu Feb 26, 2009 11:23 pm
by andwhyisit
Yes. Most save data is stored twice and then a checksum is calculated and stored (well at least that seems to be the case). It means that the game can, without fail, tell if the save data is corrupted. Also if the save data that is stored twice is stored twice in ram as well, then that would explain why gs codes produce corrupted save data after saving. They probably need sister codes for the duplicate information in ram. Though the checksum and ram info are just theories, I have seen the duplicate info and have confirmed that it isn't the only security measure used by Telefang's save data.